The Msr Windburner – Trail Written Report #1

The Msr Windburner – Trail Written Report #1

I took the novel MSR Windburner out for some farther testing.  I'm non quite create to write the lastly review exactly yet, but I've got a pretty practiced feel of the stove now.  This post service is what I telephone band a "Trail Report".  I get got the stove out on the trail as well as I written report how good it did or did non do.

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So, farther testing.  Our finish for testing is Mt. Williamson (8248'/2514m) inwards the San Gabriel Mountains.
Mt. Williamson (8248'/2514m), W face.
The summit of Mt. Williamson is exposed as well as typically fairly windy, perfect for testing a stove that claims to get got practiced air current resistance.
View from the summit of Mt. Williamson looking out into the Mojave Desert. 
It was windy, but it wasn't quite equally windy equally I had hoped.  Still, I was able to larn some practiced testing in.

Wind Resistance
First:  Wind resistance.  The stove did really good on the exposed summit of Mt. Williamson.  There were no problems when air current gusts would selection up.  I got a boil of 500 ml of H2O inwards unopen to 2:10.  The H2O temperature was unopen to 60F/15C.
The novel MSR Windburner on the summit of Mt. Williamson
Heat Indicator Testing
The Windburner comes alongside a "heat indicator," a wire that is designed to glow redly chop-chop thence that 1 knows that the burner is on as well as hot.  I wanted to cheque the functioning of the indicator.  Indeed, the oestrus indicator does glow chop-chop red, good earlier the remainder of the burner is fully red.
The MSR Windburner's Heat Indicator wire glows a brilliant red.
The indicator wire was a petty harder to come across 1 time the burner fully warmed up, but past times as well as thence of course, 1 hardly needed an indicator wire to tell that the burner is on.
The Windburner's burner glows red.
Pot Stability
Naturally, I wanted to seek out pot stability.  The Windburner is a fairly tall stove, but it's really pretty stable.  Here's a photograph of my 5 twelvemonth erstwhile miss stirring the pot equally nosotros brand lunch.  No problems alongside the stove beingness "tippy."  Now notice:  I produce non get got the canister stand upward on.  No issues alongside stability.  Note that I'm using a 227g sized canister here.  I produce recommend the canister stand upward live used since it's thence minor as well as light, but if for some argue yous didn't desire to usage it, things are reasonably stable alongside a 227g canister.  I recall you'd live good advised to e'er usage the canister legs alongside a smaller canister.
The Adventures inwards Stoving spokesmodel, demonstrating how stable the unit of measurement is.
The Windburner alongside Children
I got a enquiry of late nigh whether or non the Windburner could live staked downward for extra stability about children.  I had to acknowledge that I didn't know.  So I thought I'd endeavor it out.

The canister stand upward of the Windburner doesn't get got whatever loops or holes that 1 could run a stake through, but if yous plough the canister over, you'll abide by that there's a fair amount of clearance betwixt the bottom of the canister as well as the canister stand.
There is a gap betwixt the canister stand upward as well as the bottom of the canister.
Now, tell yous had a couplet of "shepard's hook" type stakes.
Two titanium shepard's claw type stakes.
All you'd get got to produce is loop the halt of the claw over the triangular part of the canister stand.
The Windburner's canister stand, staked down.
Now, I said in that location was some clearance nether there, but is it plenty to even thence check on the canister?  Turns out in that location is.
A canister atop the staked downward canister stand.
Here, I used 2 stakes.  It was reasonably secure.  It would in all likelihood live fifty-fifty to a greater extent than secure alongside 3 stakes.  Notice that I'm using a 227g sized canister.  With a smaller canister, in that location mightiness non live plenty clearance underneath the canister, but inwards that case, 1 could exactly loop the claw over the outer gear upward of notches on the canister stand.

Handle Functionality
One of things I really similar nigh the Windburner is that the handgrip tin really live used equally a handle.  I establish that I had practiced command as well as that the handgrip wasn't at all floppy.  There was no side to side movement.  Pouring was really steady.  Note inwards the photograph below that I picked upward the entire unit, including the gas canister.  No problem.  Plenty of leverage.
Pouring using the Windburner's splendid handle.
Photo credit: Hikin' Joyce (my daughter)
Heat Control as well as Simmering Ability
The Windburner's burner is substantially unlike than it's predecessor, the Reactor.  The Windburner's oestrus output is far to a greater extent than controllable.  But exactly how controllable?  Will it become downward far plenty to really simmer?

Before I response that question, permit me define what I hateful past times simmer.  A truthful simmer is the powerfulness to concur the oestrus at a marking such that the H2O within the pot is at a really depression boil.  In other words, a truthful simmer is exactly barely boiling.  Here's what a depression boil mightiness hold off like, inwards the photograph below.  Note that in that location are exactly a few minor bubbles.  The pot is not at a roiling boil.
An representative of a really depression boil.
I ran a serial of tests where I would convey the H2O upward to a total roiling boil, as well as and thence plough downward the heat.  As I turned downward the heat, I noticed that the stove would outset to "growl".  As I turned downward the oestrus further, the growling would outset to pulse.  At really depression heat, the stove would brand a chip of a sputtering audio as well as and thence become out.  The open fire would e'er become out earlier I could larn to a marking where the stove would simmer.  This was truthful atop breezy Mt. Williamson, as well as this was truthful inwards even thence air tests on my dorsum patio.

UPDATE 29 Nov 2014:  I showed MSR some photos of my burner inwards operation.  They responded past times maxim that my burner didn't hold off correct as well as that it surely shouldn't give the sack for a spell as well as and thence all of a precipitous become out (as I reported above).  They shipped me a novel burner.  I was quite pleased that they would ship me a novel burner.  The novel burner is quite stable on low.



So, how did I larn the photograph higher upward of a really depression boil?  Well, I took the pot off the stove for a infinitesimal as well as turned downward the oestrus equally far equally I could.  I position the pot dorsum on, and, voila, I got a depression boil.  But I couldn't hold it at a depression boil.  The boil's intensity would gradually growth until it would accomplish what I would push clit equally a moderate boil.  If 1 genuinely needed a really depression simmer, taking the pot on as well as off a few times would produce the trick, but I could non larn a truthful simmer using the valve adjustment alone.

So, given the really practiced oestrus command that 1 does get got on a Windburner, am I exactly beingness picky?  Well, possibly, but if 1 uses the truthful Definition of simmer, the Windburner isn't quite there.  Flame command is good.  Flame command is a dramatic improvement over the Reactor.  But simmer?  No, non if yous usage a strict definition.

Size
I desire to give people an thought of the Windburner's size, thence hither are some photos that volition hopefully give yous a practiced feel of the Windburner's size.  The Windburner is exactly a chip shorter, perhaps 2 cm, than a 1 liter Nalgene bottle.
A Windburner, left, adjacent to a 1 liter Nalgene bottle.
The Windburner is exactly a chip wider than a 1 liter Nalgene bottle.
A 1 liter Nalgene bottle fits within a Windburner pot.
The Windburner's Cup/Bowl
As I mentioned inwards my First Look report, the Windburner's cup/bowl is really functional.  My miss likes that it holds a prissy loving cup of hot cocoa.
Hot cocoa inwards a Windburner's cup.
My married adult woman as well as I similar that the hot cocoa doesn't become downward my daughter's shirt.
The Windburner's lid fits on the loving cup as well as helps foreclose spills
I'm somewhat humorously using my miss here, but I'm illustrating a existent point:  The lid fits, fits well, as well as minimizes spills.  I recall this could live a really handy characteristic for when 1 needs to vesture mittens or gloves.

Do depository fiscal establishment annotation that the loving cup is rather hot when filled alongside boiling water.  One needs to permit it sit down a chip or usage a bandana or something to concur the cup.

The Cozy 
I noticed that the cup/bowl on the Windburner tin live really difficult to take if it slides likewise far upward the sides of the Windburner's pot.  I asked MSR nigh this.  They replied that the cozy is intended to "lock" into identify as well as foreclose the cup/bowl from going upward likewise far.  Mine doesn't lock, I informed them.   They said that they were aware of a work alongside an early on production run of the stoves as well as that they would shipping out a replacement cozy to anyone who requested one.  Good to know.

To take the cozy, only elevator upward on the tab underneath the handgrip equally shown below as well as slide the cozy down, off the pot.
Lifting the tab shown hither allows 1 to take the pot cozy.
Then slide the novel cozy onto the pot as well as permit it lock onto the bracket welded to the side of the pot.
To position on a novel cozy:
Aline the handgrip on the bracket shown hither as well as slide the cozy upward until it engages alongside the bracket.
Since I had to get got the cozy off anyway, I took a hold off at it.  It's a really unlike construction than the neoprene cozy I've seen on other pots.
The MSR Windburner's pot cozy.  Note plastic latticework.
The cozy does piece of work inwards price of insulating the pot from one's hands, but I establish it uncomfortably hot to concur the pot past times the cozy.  The Windburner's handgrip is a practiced one, as well as I recommend that yous exactly usage the handle.

While I had the cozy off, I also weighed it.  I was a chip surprised to come across that the cozy as well as handgrip assembly weighed 49 g/1.7 oz, which struck me equally slightly heavy.  The cozy on my Jetboil Sol weighs 24g past times comparing (note that the Jetboil Sol has a smaller pot).  I believe the weight is a form of past times production of having a handgrip that tin really live used equally a handle.  A unproblematic neoprene cozy exactly wouldn't back upward a decent handle.  If 1 were genuinely concerned nigh weight, 1 could take the cozy as well as exit it at home.  Be sure to convey a bandana or hot pad alongside which to traveling steal the pot if yous take the cozy as well as handle.
The Windburner's pot, sans cozy.

So, in that location yous get got it, Trail Report #1 as well as a few to a greater extent than observations concerning the Windburner.

I give thank yous you for joining me,

HJ

The writer atop peak 8140+ (near Mt. Williamson).
Photo credit:  Hikin' Joyce (my daughter)
Disclosures
The item reviewed hither was provided to me at no accuse for the purposes of this review.  I am nether no obligation to review this or whatever other item.  I am non compensated for my reviews inwards whatever fashion other than inwards some cases I am permitted to continue the item reviewed.  Given that I get got good over a 100 backpacking stoves, a gratuitous stove frankly isn't going to purchase anyone a practiced review.  Stove companies must stair out upward if they desire a decent review here.  I am an amatuer stove blogger; I brand my living elsewhere, inwards the information technology field.  I check blogging inwards equally fourth dimension permits.  Inasmuch equally my income is derived elsewhere, monetary issues produce non influence the reviews on this blog.  Yes, I produce get got advertisements on the blog.  I typically derive nigh $1.00 USD per 24-hour interval from the advertisements (last I checked).  This is a mere pittance as well as does non influence my reviews inwards the slightest.  Revenue from the advertisements goes toward hosting fees, stove fuel, as well as the like.  The weblog is self supporting inwards that sense, as well as my married adult woman is quite happy that I'm non using the family's income to run the blog, peculiarly given how tough the economic scheme is these days.



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