Msr Windburner – Current Of Air Testing
What is the large wages that the Windburner claims over other stoves? Well, air current proofness. I mean, if the Windburner can't remove hold wind, therefore why would yous purchase one, right? Either the Windburner does good inwards air current or at that spot isn't an overriding argue to purchase one.
I idea I'd position it to the test.
UPDATE 26 November 2014: I've added a tabular array of comparative weights as well as prices with the electrical flow Jetboil as well as MSR 1.0 liter (or less) capacity integrated canister stove offerings. See Appendix II.
I've likewise added a to a greater extent than inwards depth tidings of how many boils you'd lose out on using a Jetboil vs. a Windburner. See Appendix I. There's likewise a tidings of when as well as why fuel efficiency matters inwards the nous trunk of the post.
UPDATE 27 November 2014: I've added some videos inwards Appendix III that present the lighting of the stove inwards windy conditions. Definitely to a greater extent than hard than inwards soundless air, but doable. I had far to a greater extent than problem lighting the Jetboil fifty-fifty though the Jetboil has a built inwards lighter.
I tried a serial of iv types of tests:
Test Results yesteryear Type
Still Air. In soundless or nearly soundless air, the Jetboil Sol was clearly faster than the Windburner, sometimes yesteryear every bit much every bit xxx seconds faster.
Light wind. In lite wind, the Jetboil was soundless faster, but yesteryear a narrower margin. The Jetboil's fuel usage went upwardly slightly. The Windburner's fuel consumption did non noticeably change.
Moderate wind. In moderate wind, the Jetboil as well as the Windburner were to a greater extent than equal inwards terms of fourth dimension to boil, but the Windburner typically would boil first. The Jetboil's fuel consumption went upwardly fifty-fifty more. The Windburner's fuel consumption went upwardly slightly but the modify was small.
Heavy wind. Here's where I was shocked. I expected that the Jetboil would live markedly slower than the Windburner, but instead the Jetboil would non boil at all. In heavier winds, the Jetboil would precisely blow out, as well as I never got the H2O to boil. On the other hand, the air current had no discernible number on the effectiveness of the Windburner. Let me repeat that: No discernible effect. Needless to say, I was impressed. I discontinued the comparing tests since I could larn no meaningful boil times or fuel consumption figures from the Jetboil.
The solar daytime I did my testing , at that spot were 35 mph/56 kph gusts predicted yesteryear the U.S. of America National Weather Service. Below are 2 videos, showing how the 2 stoves did.
Jetboil Sol inwards heavy winds.
MSR Windburner inwards heavy winds.
Now, of course of teaching you're non e'er going to live out inwards such dramatic conditions. But no thing what, you're e'er losing rut with a Jetboil. It's precisely a thing of degree. Yes, yous tin shield it some, but you'll e'er live wasting some fuel precisely because of the burner's opened upwardly design. The Windburner is fundamentally to a greater extent than windproof. The Windburner is fundamentally more fuel efficient inwards wind.
I'll position some numbers below inwards Appendix I that effort to approximate precisely how much you'd live giving upwardly using a Jetboil vs. a Windburner inwards terms of number of boils lost.
Wind Resistance – Does It Matter?
Well, it depends. If you're a depression height backpacker, yous likely tin shelter your stove behind a log or rock, as well as air current resistance volition thing less. Note that I say, "less," not, "it won't thing at all". You're e'er going to live saving fuel with a Windburner fifty-fifty inwards soundless air. See likewise the adjacent department on fuel efficiency. I create authorities notation even therefore that a Jetboil Flash has an MSRP of $100 USD whereas an MSR Windburner has an MSRP of $130. If all yous create is depression elevation trips as well as yous avoid high winds, the Jetboil Flash mightiness live a skilful choice. There is likewise a Jetboil Zip available for an MSRP of $80 USD. The Zip is only 0.8 L (whereas the Windburner as well as the Flash are 1.0 L each), therefore it's non completely comparable to the Windburner, but it's worth mentioning. See likewise Appendix II which contains a comparative tabular array of weights as well as prices.
Now if you're an alpinist/mountaineer, a "big wall" climber, a backpacker given to spending the nighttime at high elevation, or anyone who may detect a sheltered spot hard to come upwardly by, air current resistance mightiness hateful the deviation betwixt a dainty hot meal – as well as eating uncooked freeze dried food, direct out of the bag. If yous rely on your stove for snowfall melting, yous could air current upwardly a whole lot worse. If yous can't larn drinking water, yous greatly growth your risk of getting hypothermia, as well as hypothermia leads rapidly to death. Hypothermia is precisely non worth risking, period.
In high winds, fifty-fifty behind a stone or log, it's hard to genuinely shelter a stove. Anyone potentially facing high winds would live good advised to pick a Windburner over a Jetboil.
There's some other agency that windproofness matters – predictability. Got fuel? Are yous sure you've planned your calendar week long trip correctly? I hateful yous don't desire to live eating uncooked freeze dried nutrient at the terminate of the trip precisely because yous didn't convey plenty fuel, right? Well, hopefully, you've planned with a margin for error, but if yous run across inclement weather, especially high winds, your fuel estimates may live agency off. The Windburner is almost unaffected yesteryear wind. You tin brand fuel estimates good inwards advance as well as rely on them. With the Windburner, fluctuations inwards conditions volition non own got yous eating mutual depression temperature meals on your concluding yoke of days out on the trail.
Fuel Efficiency – Does It Matter?
Well, it depends. If you're only going out for a few days, no high winds are predicted, as well as yous e'er convey a fresh canister, therefore mayhap not. While I similar getting every bit much every bit I tin out of my canisters, for a curt trip with a fresh canister, it's non going to brand much deviation whether yous utilization a Jetboil or a Windburner inwards terms of fuel used. Only if high winds are predicted would I larn worried virtually which stove would live the right ane to bring.
Well, then, when does it matter? When yous own got to convey an extra canister (or motion upwardly to a bigger canister). An extra canister, fifty-fifty the smallest size, weighs virtually 7.4 oz/211 g. That's nearly ½ pound. In terms of saving weight, always avoid taking an extra canister or moving upwardly to the adjacent sized canister. Look at the nautical chart inwards Appendix I on how many boils you'd live giving upwardly yesteryear using a Jetboil. If losing those boils forces yous to acquit some other canister (or acquit a bigger canister), therefore it would likely live lighter overall to acquit a Windburner (see examples, below). Efficiency lonely usually volition non brand upwardly the deviation for a heavier stove. Only when yous tin avoid stepping upwardly to the adjacent sized canister or bringing an additional canister tin a to a greater extent than efficient stove relieve yous weight.
Efficiency vs. Weight – Examples
1. You commonly volition not relieve weight yesteryear beingness to a greater extent than fuel efficient alone. You precisely can't relieve plenty weight that agency to brand upwardly for a heavier stove. For illustration an aluminum Jetboil Sol weighs virtually eleven oz as well as the MSR Windburner weighs virtually fifteen oz, a 4 oz difference. Now say that yous relieve 1 g of fuel per 500 ml boiled, yous boil twice a day, as well as yous accept a calendar week long trip. Saving 1g twice per solar daytime for 7 days is 14g. In other words, yous would demand fourteen g less fuel with the to a greater extent than efficient laid up. fourteen g is virtually 1/2 oz. Recall that inwards this example, the to a greater extent than efficient ready is 4 oz heavier. Saving 1/2 oz inwards fuel volition never brand upwardly for a stove that is 4 oz heavier.
2. You will relieve weight if yous tin avoid carrying the adjacent largest size canister or carrying a mo canister. The deviation inwards gross weight betwixt a 110g canister as well as a 225g canister is roughly half-dozen oz (4 oz of fuel + 2 oz of steel container). If your 4 oz heavier stove is efficient plenty to preclude yous from having to acquit a larger canister you've precisely saved half-dozen oz - 4 oz = 2 oz. Generally this type of weight savings volition occur on trips of 7 to 10 days. The Jetboil Sol retails for $120. The Windburner retails for $130. Would I pass $10 to relieve 2 oz? Well considering how many people at that spot are willing to pay $150 for the titanium version of the Jetboil Sol which is only 1 oz lighter than the aluminum version (if yous create a existent comparison, non the spin doctored comparing on Jetboil's website), I'd say that a lot of people inwards fact would pass $10 to a greater extent than for the to a greater extent than efficient stove.
So there's my accept on the air current resistance of the Windburner.
I give thank yous you for joining me,
HJ
MSR Windburner Posts
Disclosures
The item reviewed hither was provided to me at no accuse for the purposes of this review. I am nether no obligation to review this or whatever other item. I am non compensated for my reviews inwards whatever fashion other than inwards some cases I am permitted to maintain the item reviewed. Given that I own got good over a 100 backpacking stoves, a gratuitous stove frankly isn't going to purchase anyone a skilful review. Stove companies must stair out upwardly if they desire a decent review here. I am an amatuer stove blogger; I brand my living elsewhere, inwards the information technology field. I tally blogging inwards every bit fourth dimension permits. Inasmuch every bit my income is derived elsewhere, monetary issues create non influence the reviews on this blog. Yes, I create own got advertisements on the blog. I typically derive virtually $1.00 USD per solar daytime from the advertisements (last I checked). This is a mere pittance as well as does non influence my reviews inwards the slightest. Revenue from the advertisements goes toward hosting fees, stove fuel, as well as the like. The weblog is self supporting inwards that sense, as well as my married adult woman is quite happy that I'm non using the family's income to run the blog, especially given how tough the economic scheme is these days.
OK, therefore if yous utilization a Jetboil instead of a Windburner, how many boils are yous losing out on? In other words, how many additional boils tin yous exit of a Windburner than a Jetboil for the same amount of gas?
Let's effort to position some numbers to it. Assume, for example, that yous larn a deviation of 1 gram of fuel per 500 ml boil as well as that yous boil H2O twice a day. Over a calendar week long trip, the Jetboil would require 14g to a greater extent than fuel than a Windburner. An integrated canister stove tin commonly boil 500 ml with something roughly 6g of fuel. Thus, if over a calendar week yous utilization 14g to a greater extent than with a Jetboil, therefore you'd live "losing" a fleck to a greater extent than than 2 boils every bit compared to a Windburner.
I've mapped out a nautical chart below, showing how much to a greater extent than fuel a Jetboil would utilization depending on how much deviation at that spot is inwards terms of fuel consumption per 500 ml boil.
So, how much deviation per boil tin I expect? My numbers should not live considered exhaustive, but inwards soundless air, the Jetboil required something on the gild of 0.25 to 0.5 g to a greater extent than fuel per boil. In lite winds, the Jetboil required something on the gild 0.5 to 0.75 g to a greater extent than fuel per boil. In moderate winds, the Jetboil's fuel consumption rose considerably, requiring virtually 1.0 to 1.25 g to a greater extent than per boil; I noticed inwards item that gusts really affected the Jetboil's flame. I don't own got an approximate for heavy winds because the Jetboil would non convey H2O to a boil. Clearly though, the stronger the winds, the to a greater extent than fuel the Windburner volition relieve every bit compared to a Jetboil.
Now, create my figures brand feel for you? Perhaps. Perhaps not. Maybe yous boil to a greater extent than H2O per boil. Maybe yous boil to a greater extent than oft per day. Maybe you're taking a shorter trip. If you'd similar a re-create of my Excel spreadsheet therefore yous tin effort your ain numbers, you're welcome to it. Just write me at Hikin [dot] Jim [at] gmail [dot] com as well as inquire me for one. Please live specific every bit to what you're asking for; I larn a lot of requests.
Disclaimer: My numbers should non live considered authoritative. These are ballpark estimates only. The only agency to larn exhaustive numbers would live to accept multiple Jetboils as well as multiple Windburners, give the axe through multiple canisters per stove inwards carefully controlled conditions, as well as average the numbers subsequently all tests were complete. I precisely own got non got the resources to create such testing, as well as I fully admit that fact.
Appendix II – Comparative Table of Weights as well as Prices
Weights are by as well as large the manufacturer's stated weights inwards grams. The notable exception is the weight of the titanium version of the Jetboil Sol. The Jetboil website has "spin doctored" the numbers to brand the titanium version look lighter. My number is based on an "apples to apples" comparison. The weight of private stoves volition vary. Ounces are a calculated figure based on a conversion ingredient of 28.3495. Stoves are sorted inwards gild of weight with the lightest stove first. Note that all of the 1.0 L capacity stoves are inside virtually an ounce of each other inwards terms of weight. The spread is 32 grams from the lightest 1.0 L stove to the heaviest.
UPDATE, 7 Jan 2015: I've received a authorities notation from MSR stating that production units are coming inwards heavier than the paradigm units that the weights were originally calculated from. MSR gave me a range. Basically the unit of measurement I received is virtually inwards the middle of that range. A weight precisely over sixteen ounces should live virtually the weight of a unit of measurement that yous would have should yous purchase one. I mightiness add together that MSR was a fleck chagrined virtually the miscalculation of the weights since they effort to live transparent virtually such things. I don't yet own got an exact number for the revised stated weight, but it should live virtually 460 grams/16.2 ounces. A fleck disappointing actually.
Note: My data is that Jetboil is discontinuing their Sol problem of stoves (both types).
Appendix III – Lighting the Stove inwards Windy Conditions
I've gotten a lot of questions virtually how piece of cake (or not) the Windburner is to lite inwards windy conditions. Here are 2 videos of me lighting the stove with a give the axe steel inwards the same spot every bit the videos inwards the nous role off this post were made. These 2 videos were shot precisely earlier the other videos. It was definitely to a greater extent than hard to lite than inwards soundless air, but I had no problem lighting the stove or keeping it lit long plenty to larn the pot on. In soundless air, I tin lite the stove typically on the outset strike. In windy conditions, I works life that it mightiness accept several strikes. The type of give the axe steel that you're using may impact your results. In these videos, I am using a Scout firesteel from Light My Fire.
I idea I'd position it to the test.
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| Wind swept Snow Creek Canyon close San Gorgonio Pass, the perfect spot for air current testing. |
I've likewise added a to a greater extent than inwards depth tidings of how many boils you'd lose out on using a Jetboil vs. a Windburner. See Appendix I. There's likewise a tidings of when as well as why fuel efficiency matters inwards the nous trunk of the post.
UPDATE 27 November 2014: I've added some videos inwards Appendix III that present the lighting of the stove inwards windy conditions. Definitely to a greater extent than hard than inwards soundless air, but doable. I had far to a greater extent than problem lighting the Jetboil fifty-fifty though the Jetboil has a built inwards lighter.
I tried a serial of iv types of tests:
- Still Air
- Light wind
- Moderate wind
- Heavy wind
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| Testing the MSR Windburner close San Gorgonio Pass. Note that yous cannot really take in the flame, only an orangish glow. The enclosed burner of the Windburner is the hole-and-corner to its windproof success. |
Test Results yesteryear Type
Still Air. In soundless or nearly soundless air, the Jetboil Sol was clearly faster than the Windburner, sometimes yesteryear every bit much every bit xxx seconds faster.
Light wind. In lite wind, the Jetboil was soundless faster, but yesteryear a narrower margin. The Jetboil's fuel usage went upwardly slightly. The Windburner's fuel consumption did non noticeably change.
Moderate wind. In moderate wind, the Jetboil as well as the Windburner were to a greater extent than equal inwards terms of fourth dimension to boil, but the Windburner typically would boil first. The Jetboil's fuel consumption went upwardly fifty-fifty more. The Windburner's fuel consumption went upwardly slightly but the modify was small.
Heavy wind. Here's where I was shocked. I expected that the Jetboil would live markedly slower than the Windburner, but instead the Jetboil would non boil at all. In heavier winds, the Jetboil would precisely blow out, as well as I never got the H2O to boil. On the other hand, the air current had no discernible number on the effectiveness of the Windburner. Let me repeat that: No discernible effect. Needless to say, I was impressed. I discontinued the comparing tests since I could larn no meaningful boil times or fuel consumption figures from the Jetboil.
The solar daytime I did my testing , at that spot were 35 mph/56 kph gusts predicted yesteryear the U.S. of America National Weather Service. Below are 2 videos, showing how the 2 stoves did.
Jetboil Sol inwards heavy winds.
MSR Windburner inwards heavy winds.
Now, of course of teaching you're non e'er going to live out inwards such dramatic conditions. But no thing what, you're e'er losing rut with a Jetboil. It's precisely a thing of degree. Yes, yous tin shield it some, but you'll e'er live wasting some fuel precisely because of the burner's opened upwardly design. The Windburner is fundamentally to a greater extent than windproof. The Windburner is fundamentally more fuel efficient inwards wind.
I'll position some numbers below inwards Appendix I that effort to approximate precisely how much you'd live giving upwardly using a Jetboil vs. a Windburner inwards terms of number of boils lost.
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| Wind farms dot the slopes higher upwardly San Gorgonio Pass |
Wind Resistance – Does It Matter?
Well, it depends. If you're a depression height backpacker, yous likely tin shelter your stove behind a log or rock, as well as air current resistance volition thing less. Note that I say, "less," not, "it won't thing at all". You're e'er going to live saving fuel with a Windburner fifty-fifty inwards soundless air. See likewise the adjacent department on fuel efficiency. I create authorities notation even therefore that a Jetboil Flash has an MSRP of $100 USD whereas an MSR Windburner has an MSRP of $130. If all yous create is depression elevation trips as well as yous avoid high winds, the Jetboil Flash mightiness live a skilful choice. There is likewise a Jetboil Zip available for an MSRP of $80 USD. The Zip is only 0.8 L (whereas the Windburner as well as the Flash are 1.0 L each), therefore it's non completely comparable to the Windburner, but it's worth mentioning. See likewise Appendix II which contains a comparative tabular array of weights as well as prices.
Now if you're an alpinist/mountaineer, a "big wall" climber, a backpacker given to spending the nighttime at high elevation, or anyone who may detect a sheltered spot hard to come upwardly by, air current resistance mightiness hateful the deviation betwixt a dainty hot meal – as well as eating uncooked freeze dried food, direct out of the bag. If yous rely on your stove for snowfall melting, yous could air current upwardly a whole lot worse. If yous can't larn drinking water, yous greatly growth your risk of getting hypothermia, as well as hypothermia leads rapidly to death. Hypothermia is precisely non worth risking, period.
In high winds, fifty-fifty behind a stone or log, it's hard to genuinely shelter a stove. Anyone potentially facing high winds would live good advised to pick a Windburner over a Jetboil.
There's some other agency that windproofness matters – predictability. Got fuel? Are yous sure you've planned your calendar week long trip correctly? I hateful yous don't desire to live eating uncooked freeze dried nutrient at the terminate of the trip precisely because yous didn't convey plenty fuel, right? Well, hopefully, you've planned with a margin for error, but if yous run across inclement weather, especially high winds, your fuel estimates may live agency off. The Windburner is almost unaffected yesteryear wind. You tin brand fuel estimates good inwards advance as well as rely on them. With the Windburner, fluctuations inwards conditions volition non own got yous eating mutual depression temperature meals on your concluding yoke of days out on the trail.
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| Commercial air current turbines inwards the San Gorgonio Pass area |
Fuel Efficiency – Does It Matter?
Well, it depends. If you're only going out for a few days, no high winds are predicted, as well as yous e'er convey a fresh canister, therefore mayhap not. While I similar getting every bit much every bit I tin out of my canisters, for a curt trip with a fresh canister, it's non going to brand much deviation whether yous utilization a Jetboil or a Windburner inwards terms of fuel used. Only if high winds are predicted would I larn worried virtually which stove would live the right ane to bring.
Well, then, when does it matter? When yous own got to convey an extra canister (or motion upwardly to a bigger canister). An extra canister, fifty-fifty the smallest size, weighs virtually 7.4 oz/211 g. That's nearly ½ pound. In terms of saving weight, always avoid taking an extra canister or moving upwardly to the adjacent sized canister. Look at the nautical chart inwards Appendix I on how many boils you'd live giving upwardly yesteryear using a Jetboil. If losing those boils forces yous to acquit some other canister (or acquit a bigger canister), therefore it would likely live lighter overall to acquit a Windburner (see examples, below). Efficiency lonely usually volition non brand upwardly the deviation for a heavier stove. Only when yous tin avoid stepping upwardly to the adjacent sized canister or bringing an additional canister tin a to a greater extent than efficient stove relieve yous weight.
Efficiency vs. Weight – Examples
1. You commonly volition not relieve weight yesteryear beingness to a greater extent than fuel efficient alone. You precisely can't relieve plenty weight that agency to brand upwardly for a heavier stove. For illustration an aluminum Jetboil Sol weighs virtually eleven oz as well as the MSR Windburner weighs virtually fifteen oz, a 4 oz difference. Now say that yous relieve 1 g of fuel per 500 ml boiled, yous boil twice a day, as well as yous accept a calendar week long trip. Saving 1g twice per solar daytime for 7 days is 14g. In other words, yous would demand fourteen g less fuel with the to a greater extent than efficient laid up. fourteen g is virtually 1/2 oz. Recall that inwards this example, the to a greater extent than efficient ready is 4 oz heavier. Saving 1/2 oz inwards fuel volition never brand upwardly for a stove that is 4 oz heavier.
2. You will relieve weight if yous tin avoid carrying the adjacent largest size canister or carrying a mo canister. The deviation inwards gross weight betwixt a 110g canister as well as a 225g canister is roughly half-dozen oz (4 oz of fuel + 2 oz of steel container). If your 4 oz heavier stove is efficient plenty to preclude yous from having to acquit a larger canister you've precisely saved half-dozen oz - 4 oz = 2 oz. Generally this type of weight savings volition occur on trips of 7 to 10 days. The Jetboil Sol retails for $120. The Windburner retails for $130. Would I pass $10 to relieve 2 oz? Well considering how many people at that spot are willing to pay $150 for the titanium version of the Jetboil Sol which is only 1 oz lighter than the aluminum version (if yous create a existent comparison, non the spin doctored comparing on Jetboil's website), I'd say that a lot of people inwards fact would pass $10 to a greater extent than for the to a greater extent than efficient stove.
So there's my accept on the air current resistance of the Windburner.
I give thank yous you for joining me,
HJ
MSR Windburner Posts
- "First Look" Report
- Trail Report #1
- Hanging Kit I
- Lighting the Windburner
- Wind Testing
- Coffee Press
- Hanging Kit II
- MSR Windburner – Three Things to Note
- Cooking Ability
- Final, Completed Review
Disclosures
The item reviewed hither was provided to me at no accuse for the purposes of this review. I am nether no obligation to review this or whatever other item. I am non compensated for my reviews inwards whatever fashion other than inwards some cases I am permitted to maintain the item reviewed. Given that I own got good over a 100 backpacking stoves, a gratuitous stove frankly isn't going to purchase anyone a skilful review. Stove companies must stair out upwardly if they desire a decent review here. I am an amatuer stove blogger; I brand my living elsewhere, inwards the information technology field. I tally blogging inwards every bit fourth dimension permits. Inasmuch every bit my income is derived elsewhere, monetary issues create non influence the reviews on this blog. Yes, I create own got advertisements on the blog. I typically derive virtually $1.00 USD per solar daytime from the advertisements (last I checked). This is a mere pittance as well as does non influence my reviews inwards the slightest. Revenue from the advertisements goes toward hosting fees, stove fuel, as well as the like. The weblog is self supporting inwards that sense, as well as my married adult woman is quite happy that I'm non using the family's income to run the blog, especially given how tough the economic scheme is these days.
OK, therefore if yous utilization a Jetboil instead of a Windburner, how many boils are yous losing out on? In other words, how many additional boils tin yous exit of a Windburner than a Jetboil for the same amount of gas?
Let's effort to position some numbers to it. Assume, for example, that yous larn a deviation of 1 gram of fuel per 500 ml boil as well as that yous boil H2O twice a day. Over a calendar week long trip, the Jetboil would require 14g to a greater extent than fuel than a Windburner. An integrated canister stove tin commonly boil 500 ml with something roughly 6g of fuel. Thus, if over a calendar week yous utilization 14g to a greater extent than with a Jetboil, therefore you'd live "losing" a fleck to a greater extent than than 2 boils every bit compared to a Windburner.
I've mapped out a nautical chart below, showing how much to a greater extent than fuel a Jetboil would utilization depending on how much deviation at that spot is inwards terms of fuel consumption per 500 ml boil.
| Difference per boil (grams) | 0.25 | 0.50 | 0.75 | 1.00 | 1.25 | 1.50 | 1.75 | 2.00 | 2.25 | 2.50 | 2.75 | 3.00 | 3.25 | 3.50 | 3.75 | 4.00 |
| Boils per solar daytime (500 ml each) | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 |
| # of days | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 |
| Total deviation (grams) | 3.5 | 7.0 | 10.5 | 14.0 | 17.5 | 21.0 | 24.5 | 28.0 | 31.5 | 35.0 | 38.5 | 42.0 | 45.5 | 49.0 | 52.5 | 56.0 |
| Fuel grams per boil | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 |
| Boils "lost" | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 6 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 8 | 9 | 9 |
So, how much deviation per boil tin I expect? My numbers should not live considered exhaustive, but inwards soundless air, the Jetboil required something on the gild of 0.25 to 0.5 g to a greater extent than fuel per boil. In lite winds, the Jetboil required something on the gild 0.5 to 0.75 g to a greater extent than fuel per boil. In moderate winds, the Jetboil's fuel consumption rose considerably, requiring virtually 1.0 to 1.25 g to a greater extent than per boil; I noticed inwards item that gusts really affected the Jetboil's flame. I don't own got an approximate for heavy winds because the Jetboil would non convey H2O to a boil. Clearly though, the stronger the winds, the to a greater extent than fuel the Windburner volition relieve every bit compared to a Jetboil.
Now, create my figures brand feel for you? Perhaps. Perhaps not. Maybe yous boil to a greater extent than H2O per boil. Maybe yous boil to a greater extent than oft per day. Maybe you're taking a shorter trip. If you'd similar a re-create of my Excel spreadsheet therefore yous tin effort your ain numbers, you're welcome to it. Just write me at Hikin [dot] Jim [at] gmail [dot] com as well as inquire me for one. Please live specific every bit to what you're asking for; I larn a lot of requests.
Disclaimer: My numbers should non live considered authoritative. These are ballpark estimates only. The only agency to larn exhaustive numbers would live to accept multiple Jetboils as well as multiple Windburners, give the axe through multiple canisters per stove inwards carefully controlled conditions, as well as average the numbers subsequently all tests were complete. I precisely own got non got the resources to create such testing, as well as I fully admit that fact.
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| Wind turbines, San Gorgonio Pass |
Appendix II – Comparative Table of Weights as well as Prices
| Integrated Canister Stove | Capacity (liters) | Weight (g) | Weight (oz) | Retail Price |
| Jetboil Sol (Ti) | 0.8 | 279 | 9.8 | $150.00 |
| Jetboil Sol (Al) | 0.8 | 312 | 11.0 | $120.00 |
| Jetboil Zip | 0.8 | 345 | 12.2 | $80.00 |
| Jetboil Flash | 1.0 | 400 | 14.1 | $100.00 |
| Jetboil MiniMo | 1.0 | 415 | 14.6 | $130.00 |
| MSR Reactor | 1.0 | 417 | 14.7 | $190.00 |
| MSR Windburner | 1.0 | 432 | 15.2 | $130.00 |
Weights are by as well as large the manufacturer's stated weights inwards grams. The notable exception is the weight of the titanium version of the Jetboil Sol. The Jetboil website has "spin doctored" the numbers to brand the titanium version look lighter. My number is based on an "apples to apples" comparison. The weight of private stoves volition vary. Ounces are a calculated figure based on a conversion ingredient of 28.3495. Stoves are sorted inwards gild of weight with the lightest stove first. Note that all of the 1.0 L capacity stoves are inside virtually an ounce of each other inwards terms of weight. The spread is 32 grams from the lightest 1.0 L stove to the heaviest.
UPDATE, 7 Jan 2015: I've received a authorities notation from MSR stating that production units are coming inwards heavier than the paradigm units that the weights were originally calculated from. MSR gave me a range. Basically the unit of measurement I received is virtually inwards the middle of that range. A weight precisely over sixteen ounces should live virtually the weight of a unit of measurement that yous would have should yous purchase one. I mightiness add together that MSR was a fleck chagrined virtually the miscalculation of the weights since they effort to live transparent virtually such things. I don't yet own got an exact number for the revised stated weight, but it should live virtually 460 grams/16.2 ounces. A fleck disappointing actually.
Note: My data is that Jetboil is discontinuing their Sol problem of stoves (both types).
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| Size comparisons. L to R: MSR Reactor (1.0 L), MSR Windburner (1.0 L), Original Jetboil PCS (1.0 L), Jetboil Al Sol (0.8 L). |
Appendix III – Lighting the Stove inwards Windy Conditions
I've gotten a lot of questions virtually how piece of cake (or not) the Windburner is to lite inwards windy conditions. Here are 2 videos of me lighting the stove with a give the axe steel inwards the same spot every bit the videos inwards the nous role off this post were made. These 2 videos were shot precisely earlier the other videos. It was definitely to a greater extent than hard to lite than inwards soundless air, but I had no problem lighting the stove or keeping it lit long plenty to larn the pot on. In soundless air, I tin lite the stove typically on the outset strike. In windy conditions, I works life that it mightiness accept several strikes. The type of give the axe steel that you're using may impact your results. In these videos, I am using a Scout firesteel from Light My Fire.
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