Bushbuddy Vs Ti-Tri Cone
Recently, I reviewed the Ti-Tri Cone as well as the BushBuddy Ultra. Today, I idea I'd produce a quick comparing of the two.
First, allow me country correct upward front, that these are ii genuinely expert character forest burning stoves. They're both good designed, good constructed, as well as a pleasance to use. If you're inward the marketplace for a forest burning backpacking stove, I receive got no work commending either 1 to you. However, as amongst all stoves, 1 or the other volition operate amend for a given individual, depending on that individual's province of affairs as well as style. So, let's compare!
Quality of Workmanship
Both receive got first-class build quality, but the BushBuddy Ultra is a tour de forcefulness inward craftsmanship. It is exactly genuinely good set together past times someone who clearly is a master copy fabricator. I used this photograph inward my review, but it's thus illustrative that it bears repeating.
Just facial expression at the regularity of the spot welds. My data is that those are all done past times mitt (!). Now, that's craftsmanship. Of course of written report we're hither to give the axe forest non set something upward on the drapery as an fine art piece, but still, 1 can't help but admire the workmanship of the BushBuddy Ultra.
Note that the BushBuddy's craftsmanship inward no wise puts the Ti-Tri Cone inward a bad light. The Ti-Tri Cone is a good made product.
Packability
The Ti-Tri Cone has a clear border here. The principal cone, inferno alternative inner cone, as well as flooring gyre upward into a lilliputian package. Now, that's pretty sweet.
The give the axe grate fits on the flooring of the pot; the ii tent stakes represent within the rolled upward cone; the wire back upward for the grate rolls upward as well as stores adjacent to the rolled upward cone; as well as there's silent room within for more. I tin privy toss inward a lighter, mensuration cup, alcohol stove, spoon, a couplet of ESBIT cubes, etc.
By contrast, a BushBuddy inward the pot agency y'all to a greater extent than oft than non won't teach also much else inward the pot. Now, don't teach me wrong. The BushBuddy's trace a fast 1 on of merely rotating the pot supports 180 degrees as well as storing them within the trunk of the BushBuddy is brilliant, but the BushBuddy exactly isn't as compact as a Tri-Ti Cone.
You tin privy represent an alcohol stove or to a greater extent than or less ESBIT inside, but the BushBuddy isn't quite as infinite efficient as a Sidewinder Ti-Tri Cone.
Ease of Set Up
The BushBuddy is a snap. Pull out the pot supports, rotate 180 degrees thus that the pot supports indicate up, as well as laid the pot supports inward the grove that runs along the move on of the BushBuddy. You're done. It mightiness receive got all of virtually xxx seconds, if that. On the other hand, the Ti-Tri Cone has an outer cone to assemble, the flooring to emplace, the wire gyre to position, the grate to laid atop the wire roll, the inner cone must live on connected, as well as the ii tent stakes must live on slid through their respective holes, Clearly the BushBuddy is the winner here.
However, we're talking virtually a forest give the axe here. Compared to gathering wood, edifice a give the axe lay, as well as getting a give the axe started, I don't recall either laid upward is especially bad. In the context of the amount of operate that a forest give the axe requires, the laid upward on either 1 is non a large deal.
Ease of Take Down
As y'all mightiness expect, it's to a greater extent than operate to pack upward a Ti-Tri Cone amongst the Inferno Option. I don't recall it's a huge hassle, especially afterward you've done it a couplet of times, but it is to a greater extent than work. The 1 thing I produce divulge is that my hands teach dirtier when taking downward a Ti-Tri Cone afterward forest burning. I justice 1 exactly needs to live on prepared for that as well as pack to a greater extent than or less infant wipes.
Ease of Cooking
The existent departure hither is capacity. Even though the Ti-Tri Cone packs smaller, it sets upward larger. The larger capacity agency y'all charge in 1 trial for a boil.
The smaller BushBuddy needed to live on fed repeatedly spell inward purpose inward social club to teach a boil. If you're wanting to produce cooking that requires coals for fifty-fifty heating, the Ti-Tri Cone holds to a greater extent than coals as well as provides to a greater extent than sustained, fifty-fifty heat. I've been able to ready things similar a 4 egg omelet, which is pretty thick when cooked inward a modest backpacking type pan, without whatever problems on a wood-fired Ti-Tri Cone.
Non-Wood Use
OK, here's where the Ti-Tri Cone exactly obviously beats the BushBuddy. Yes, y'all can kludge upward a way to run an alcohol or ESBIT stove amongst a BushBuddy, but it genuinely doesn't operate that well, especially inward wind.
On the other hand, the Ti-Tri Cone is an alcohol stove laid upward of the commencement order. The Ti-Tri Cone is also an first-class ESBIT laid up. Really it is excellence inward non-wood fashion that sets the Ti-Tri Cone apart. The BushBuddy is nifty if you're going to live on able to give the axe forest a high pct of the fourth dimension as well as exclusively occasionally receive got to give the axe alcohol or ESBIT. If withal you're going to produce whatever pregnant part of a trip amongst non-wood fuels, the Ti-Tri Cone wins hands down.
Weight
Just below, I've set downward the weights corresponding to the diverse modes that 1 could run a Ti-Tri Cone in. These weights are measured on my kitchen gram scale. Note that I'm using a Ti-Tri Cone sized for a 1300ml Evernew pot which does non demand stakes when used amongst alcohol. Smaller pots volition require the purpose of stakes. Each stake weighs 7g.
By contrast, the BushBuddy weighs 139g/4.9 ounces on my scale. No affair what configuration inward which the Ti-Tri Cone is used, the Ti-Tri Cone is lighter.
Keep inward heed also that you'll demand a windscreen for the BushBuddy if y'all purpose alcohol or ESBIT. The weight of a windscreen volition add weight to the above listed weight.
Pot Stability
Both stoves furnish expert pot stability. I'd country the border goes to the Ti-Tri Cone, especially inward sloping or uneven terrain.
Price
The Bushbuddy Ultra is $120.00 Canadian Dollars including shipping to addresses within Canada as well as $128.00 Canadian Dollars including shipping to the the States including Alaska as well as Hawaii. No pot is included.
The toll of a Sidewinder Ti-Tri Cone volition vary amongst the options y'all select. For the total forest burning laid upward listed below, the toll is $130.00 U.S. of A. dollars which does non include shipping. No pot is included, but a 20% discount is offered if y'all purchase a pot along amongst the Ti-Tri Cone. Shipping to my location is $6.37 for the below listed components. Shipping to your location may vary. California residents must pay sales taxation which I believe is 7.6% inward the county where Trail Designs is located.
The BushBuddy is slightly less as well as includes transportation but the Ti-Tri Cone laid upward includes more, as well as Trail Designs offers a 20% discount if y'all purchase a pot for your set. Take your pick.
Sidewinder Ti-Tri Cone Component List
a) Sidewinder Ti-Tri Cone (outer cone)
b) Two titanium tent stakes
c) 12-10 alcohol stove
d) "Gram Cracker" ESBIT stove amongst drip plate
e) Inferno insert (inner cone)
f) Fire grate as well as wire support
g) Floor
h) Tyvek sacks to household the diverse components.
i) Fuel bottle (for alcohol)
j) Small mensuration loving cup (for mensuration alcohol)
LNT Considerations
I receive got experienced to a greater extent than or less scorching of the dry soil afterward using the Ti-Tri Cone for an extended menses of fourth dimension (long periods of testing amongst multiple items cooked inward a row) despite using the floor. I receive got non experienced scorching amongst normal use.
The scorch marks are real shallow as well as easily removed, but 1 should clear the dry soil earlier purpose as well as inspect the dry soil afterward use.
I receive got experienced no scorch marks when using a BushBuddy Ultra. Indeed, the bottom of a BushBuddy doesn't fifty-fifty teach hot spell inward use.
It's also worth mentioning that amongst either stove, fuel consumption is far less than amongst an opened upward fire. Using less fuel agency that in that location is less deport upon on the environment.
Flexibility
Here, the BushBuddy wins, no enquiry virtually it. With the BushBuddy, y'all tin privy purpose pretty much whatever pot, kettle, or pan.
Note withal that if y'all desire to pack the BushBuddy inward your pot that you'll demand a relatively tall pot. A BushBuddy volition non represent inward a shorter pot. The BushBuddy Ultra is sized to represent good inward a Snow Peak Trek 900 pot.
With a Ti-Tri Cone, y'all are to a greater extent than oft than non restricted to whatever pot the Cone was built for. Each Ti-Tri Cone is sized for a item pot. The Ti-Tri Cone seen hither is sized for a 1300ml Evernew pot. However, I receive got been able to relaxation a pan on top of the edges of the cone. In other words, I genuinely receive got a few to a greater extent than options than exactly the pot the Ti-Tri Cone was made for.
Note: I would non endeavour cooking amongst a pan placed on move on of an aluminum Caldera Cone.
Conclusion
Overall, I prefer the Ti-Tri Cone because of it's lighter weight, greater capacity, amend packability, air current resistance, amend stability, as well as powerfulness to run as good on forest as well as non-wood fuels. Particularly where I alive where forest give the axe bans are a fact of life, the powerfulness to run as good on forest as well as non-wood fuels is key.
Moreover, I would recall that for anyone who camps both inward a higher house as well as below tree work that the Ti-Tri Cone would live on the forest burning stove of choice.
So, in that location y'all receive got it, a quick facial expression at the BushBuddy Ultra as well as the Ti-Tri Cone inward damage of how they compare to 1 another.
I give thank y'all you for joining me on to a greater extent than or less other Adventure In Stoving.
HJ
Acknowledgments
The ii stoves featured inward this comparing were provided past times BPL members Christian D. as well as Randy N. Thank y'all to Christian as well as Randy!
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| A Ti Tri Cone (Sidewinder type), left, as well as a BushBuddy Ultra, right. |
Quality of Workmanship
Both receive got first-class build quality, but the BushBuddy Ultra is a tour de forcefulness inward craftsmanship. It is exactly genuinely good set together past times someone who clearly is a master copy fabricator. I used this photograph inward my review, but it's thus illustrative that it bears repeating.
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| The wonderful craftsmanship of a BushBuddy Ultra |
Note that the BushBuddy's craftsmanship inward no wise puts the Ti-Tri Cone inward a bad light. The Ti-Tri Cone is a good made product.
Packability
The Ti-Tri Cone has a clear border here. The principal cone, inferno alternative inner cone, as well as flooring gyre upward into a lilliputian package. Now, that's pretty sweet.
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| The principal cone, inner cone ("Inferno Option"), as well as the floor. |
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| A packed upward Ti-Tri Cone (left). A packed upward BushBuddy (right). |
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| The BushBuddy's pot supports rotate 180 degrees as well as shop inside. |
Ease of Set Up
The BushBuddy is a snap. Pull out the pot supports, rotate 180 degrees thus that the pot supports indicate up, as well as laid the pot supports inward the grove that runs along the move on of the BushBuddy. You're done. It mightiness receive got all of virtually xxx seconds, if that. On the other hand, the Ti-Tri Cone has an outer cone to assemble, the flooring to emplace, the wire gyre to position, the grate to laid atop the wire roll, the inner cone must live on connected, as well as the ii tent stakes must live on slid through their respective holes, Clearly the BushBuddy is the winner here.
However, we're talking virtually a forest give the axe here. Compared to gathering wood, edifice a give the axe lay, as well as getting a give the axe started, I don't recall either laid upward is especially bad. In the context of the amount of operate that a forest give the axe requires, the laid upward on either 1 is non a large deal.
Ease of Take Down
As y'all mightiness expect, it's to a greater extent than operate to pack upward a Ti-Tri Cone amongst the Inferno Option. I don't recall it's a huge hassle, especially afterward you've done it a couplet of times, but it is to a greater extent than work. The 1 thing I produce divulge is that my hands teach dirtier when taking downward a Ti-Tri Cone afterward forest burning. I justice 1 exactly needs to live on prepared for that as well as pack to a greater extent than or less infant wipes.
Ease of Cooking
The existent departure hither is capacity. Even though the Ti-Tri Cone packs smaller, it sets upward larger. The larger capacity agency y'all charge in 1 trial for a boil.
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| The Ti-Tri Cone (left) has a much larger give the axe box than the BushBuddy (right). |
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| An omelet prepared on a wood-fired Sidewinder Ti-Tri Cone |
OK, here's where the Ti-Tri Cone exactly obviously beats the BushBuddy. Yes, y'all can kludge upward a way to run an alcohol or ESBIT stove amongst a BushBuddy, but it genuinely doesn't operate that well, especially inward wind.
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| An alcohol stove inward purpose amongst a BushBuddy. It works. Kind of. |
Wind Resistance
The Ti-Tri Cone organisation uses the highly effective Caldera Cone as its pot back upward as well as windscreen. Except for the handgrip cutting out, the pot has no gap betwixt itself as well as the upper border of the windcreen.
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| The tight plumbing fixtures Caldera Cone windsreen. |
On the other hand, the BushBuddy has a 360 grade gap that allows air current to sweep through.
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| There is a gap that air current tin privy blow through betwixt the pot as well as the stove amongst a BushBuddy Ultra. |
With wood, efficiency is a lilliputian less critical since if the air current blows away your oestrus y'all tin privy presumably exactly add together to a greater extent than or less to a greater extent than forest to brand upward the difference. In higher winds, a stove without expert air current resistance tin privy live on a problem.
If 1 is using alcohol or ESBIT, as well as thus air current resistance is quite a chip to a greater extent than critical. The Ti-Tri Cone is the clear winner inward the air current resistance category.
If 1 is using alcohol or ESBIT, as well as thus air current resistance is quite a chip to a greater extent than critical. The Ti-Tri Cone is the clear winner inward the air current resistance category.
Weight
Just below, I've set downward the weights corresponding to the diverse modes that 1 could run a Ti-Tri Cone in. These weights are measured on my kitchen gram scale. Note that I'm using a Ti-Tri Cone sized for a 1300ml Evernew pot which does non demand stakes when used amongst alcohol. Smaller pots volition require the purpose of stakes. Each stake weighs 7g.
| Ti-Tri Cone | Grams | Ounces | ||
| Full Wood Mode (Inferno Option) | 126 | 4.44 | ||
| Minimum Wood Mode (with floor) | 77 | 2.72 | ||
| Non-LNT Wood Mode (no floor) | 59 | 2.08 | ||
| Alcohol Mode (no stakes) | 60 | 2.12 | ||
| ESBIT Mode (with stakes) | 57 | 2.01 |
By contrast, the BushBuddy weighs 139g/4.9 ounces on my scale. No affair what configuration inward which the Ti-Tri Cone is used, the Ti-Tri Cone is lighter.
Keep inward heed also that you'll demand a windscreen for the BushBuddy if y'all purpose alcohol or ESBIT. The weight of a windscreen volition add weight to the above listed weight.
Pot Stability
Both stoves furnish expert pot stability. I'd country the border goes to the Ti-Tri Cone, especially inward sloping or uneven terrain.
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| Two Evernew 1300ml pots on (left) a Sidewinder Ti-Tri Cone as well as (right) a BushBuddy Ultra. The Ti-Tri Cone is to a greater extent than stable inward varied terrain. |
The Bushbuddy Ultra is $120.00 Canadian Dollars including shipping to addresses within Canada as well as $128.00 Canadian Dollars including shipping to the the States including Alaska as well as Hawaii. No pot is included.
The toll of a Sidewinder Ti-Tri Cone volition vary amongst the options y'all select. For the total forest burning laid upward listed below, the toll is $130.00 U.S. of A. dollars which does non include shipping. No pot is included, but a 20% discount is offered if y'all purchase a pot along amongst the Ti-Tri Cone. Shipping to my location is $6.37 for the below listed components. Shipping to your location may vary. California residents must pay sales taxation which I believe is 7.6% inward the county where Trail Designs is located.
The BushBuddy is slightly less as well as includes transportation but the Ti-Tri Cone laid upward includes more, as well as Trail Designs offers a 20% discount if y'all purchase a pot for your set. Take your pick.
Sidewinder Ti-Tri Cone Component List
a) Sidewinder Ti-Tri Cone (outer cone)
b) Two titanium tent stakes
c) 12-10 alcohol stove
d) "Gram Cracker" ESBIT stove amongst drip plate
e) Inferno insert (inner cone)
f) Fire grate as well as wire support
g) Floor
h) Tyvek sacks to household the diverse components.
i) Fuel bottle (for alcohol)
j) Small mensuration loving cup (for mensuration alcohol)
LNT Considerations
I receive got experienced to a greater extent than or less scorching of the dry soil afterward using the Ti-Tri Cone for an extended menses of fourth dimension (long periods of testing amongst multiple items cooked inward a row) despite using the floor. I receive got non experienced scorching amongst normal use.
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| Superficial scorch grade left on the dry soil past times a Ti-Tri Cone |
I receive got experienced no scorch marks when using a BushBuddy Ultra. Indeed, the bottom of a BushBuddy doesn't fifty-fifty teach hot spell inward use.
It's also worth mentioning that amongst either stove, fuel consumption is far less than amongst an opened upward fire. Using less fuel agency that in that location is less deport upon on the environment.
Flexibility
Here, the BushBuddy wins, no enquiry virtually it. With the BushBuddy, y'all tin privy purpose pretty much whatever pot, kettle, or pan.
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| A BushBuddy Ultra amongst a 1300ml Evernew pot |
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| The same BushBuddy amongst a 1000ml Snow Peak pot |
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| A BushBuddy Ultra volition non represent in, for example, an Evernew 1300ml pot. A taller pot is needed. |
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| Cooking scrambled eggs inward a pan placed on move on of a Ti-Tri Cone |
Conclusion
Overall, I prefer the Ti-Tri Cone because of it's lighter weight, greater capacity, amend packability, air current resistance, amend stability, as well as powerfulness to run as good on forest as well as non-wood fuels. Particularly where I alive where forest give the axe bans are a fact of life, the powerfulness to run as good on forest as well as non-wood fuels is key.
Moreover, I would recall that for anyone who camps both inward a higher house as well as below tree work that the Ti-Tri Cone would live on the forest burning stove of choice.
So, in that location y'all receive got it, a quick facial expression at the BushBuddy Ultra as well as the Ti-Tri Cone inward damage of how they compare to 1 another.
I give thank y'all you for joining me on to a greater extent than or less other Adventure In Stoving.
HJ
Acknowledgments
The ii stoves featured inward this comparing were provided past times BPL members Christian D. as well as Randy N. Thank y'all to Christian as well as Randy!
Other forest fired backpacking stove posts:
- The BushBuddy Ultra. Craftsmanship has not gone out of style.
- The Ti-Tri Cone -- The Ultimate Ultralight Stove System?
- Why a Wood Stove? More Thoughts on the Ti-Tri Cone.
- Wood Fired Cooking on a Ti-Tri Cone. Cooking existent nutrient amongst wood.
- BushBuddy vs Ti-Tri Cone. Wood stoves, compared.
Posts on the Caldera Cone:
- Caldera Cone Review Supplement -- Additional Photos as well as Technical Appendix amongst Weights
- Caldera Cone vs. Clikstand Alcohol Stove Tests
- The Caldera Cone's 12-10 Burner
- What "Color" is your Caldera?
- The "Magic" of the Caldera Cone (Why is the Caldera Cone thus efficient?)
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